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I have signed a lease with a local who will be opening a relaxed, Irish style pub in the space. This was a long time coming, but is a great fit for the building and that block. She lives on Pape, and has years of experience.
It will likely have a bar in the front room, and then more dining in the middle room (the snug) and the back.
Will this place have TVs for sporting event?. To me that seems to be the biggest gap in Leslieville. Nowhere to go watch a game.
I see that they have run cables for TV screens, and my understanding is that they plan to enable exactly that.
Well that is glorious news!
I think they have identified an missing element in the Leslieville restaurant experience. I am excited for them!
Restaurants that eschew children in this neighbourhood fail. We spend thousands of dollars a year on neighbourhood spots that welcome our kids: Ceili, QMP, Gios, Strats, etc. etc. Those that rely on local business would be wise to not take the offensive stance of The Roy, unless they want to become stagnant retreats of solo regulars.
It is glorious news Mark only if it is stroller free!
Completely agree Kelly. Realistically, strollers are only an issue until what, 8:00pm? A sucessful business should cater to all and shouldn't have to specifically the 'stroller' crowd because they shouldn't be an issue during 'adult' hours anyways....
Personally, I think its up to the business owner to make that decision for themselves. If they don't want to be strollers/child friendly, that's their business and if they don't, also their business. As much as this is a family-friendly neighborhood generally, and as much I am in support of that, I do also find that there is an element of that "family-friendliness" that borders on hyper-sensitive regarding businesses that don't go out of their way to welcome their little darlings into their establishment. Plenty of adults, including those with kids, prefer not to hang out with infants when at a bar - a night out is often a break from the kids. We should respect that, as much as we respect folks who wish to bring their kids out. Seriously - I remember not too long ago on this board someone wanted to start a boycott of the Roy over their policy. Ridiculous.
Besides, there's plenty of places around here that go out of their way to welcome kids, such that there's no need to start a crusade against the few that don't. Simple economics will likely dicate that most places here will at least be neutral on the issue of kids and strollers, if not necessarily welcoming them with open arms, so there's no need to act as if this is an issue of any kind to make a stink about.
Let the woman get a chance to open up her pub before you all strart telling her landlord what should and shouldn't be in there or who she should cater to. Businesses can't cater to everyone. Its the ones that try to do so that fail miserably.
Seriously - people need to chill out a bit.
Have a nice day everyone. :)
Part of being an interesting and dynamic neighborhood is to welcome businesses of all types, not just those who cater to your specific preferences.
Believe it or not, there are those, including parents, who like to have the OPTION to dine in an adults space.
I don't think anyone disputes your points, Chris. But if you eat dinner at 6:00, expect to be around kids, seniors, and 905ers making a pilgrimage to the city. If you want to eat with adults, go at 7:30 or after, when the kids are back for bed.
Really my point was that this pub hasn't opened - heck, we really don't know anything about it, other than its going to have some kind of Irish theme, and here we are having a discussion about whether it should be kid-friendly? And suggesting that they're doomed to fail if they aren't? Really? I think that's a tad excessive, don't you? Surely, we're not now expecting any place that opens to cater to every possible clientele, and be ready to condemn them if they don't are we?
NTTH, you're wrong. Such rules do exist. Look them up -