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Opening soon....

I thought I'd start a list of new places that were opening soon around the hood.

Pulp Kitchen - 1127 Queen Street East
lil' bean n' green (www.lilbeanandgreen.com) - 1133 Queen St. East
Steep and Infused (www.steepedandinfused.com/)
Le Papillon on the Park (http://lepapilloneast.com)
What Are You Looking At Bar And Lounge - 996 Queen Street East,

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Permalink Reply by TC on March 2, 2010 at 2:31pm

(Also re; Scotch Egg's comment)
No way - those sound like the convenience of mapmakers / BIA bureaucrats. The neighbourhood reality is much different. I say "Leslieville' as a distinct community is approx. the area I outlined above. Or is 'Leslieville' just a state of mind? Or a real-estate agent sales tool? ;)

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Permalink Reply by Scratch Egg on March 2, 2010 at 2:50pm

So north of Dundas isn't a neighbourhood? Coxwellville? It's been well accepted that these areas are indeed part of Leslieville. Maps handed out in the area show those boundaries, and by people that live here. Some consider the Port Lands to be inside Leslieville. By your reasoning, why would Leslieville go as far west as Carlaw? Why not just have it around Leslie...but then Leslie goes North past Gerrard. Greenwood is 4 blocks East of Leslie. So 4 blocks West would be...Bertmount. You would have 8 square blocks in that neighbourhood. If that was the case then why name it at all?

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Permalink Reply by Nolin (Admin) on March 2, 2010 at 2:54pm

Curious then, Terry... by what criteria did you decide to vote for the boundaries you suggested? What is it about the area between Greenwood and Coxwell that you find so un-Leslieville?

Terry Cain said:

(Also re; Scotch Egg's comment)
No way - those sound like the convenience of mapmakers / BIA bureaucrats. The neighbourhood reality is much different. I say "Leslieville' as a distinct community is approx. the area I outlined above. Or is 'Leslieville' just a state of mind? Or a real-estate agent sales tool? ;)

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Permalink Reply by Scratch Egg on March 2, 2010 at 2:54pm

What Are You Looking At Bar And Lounge...doesn't seem to be opening. It's for sale.

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Permalink Reply by Nolin (Admin) on March 2, 2010 at 2:55pm

lots of obvious, lame jokes to come of that news

Scotch Egg said:

What Are You Looking At Bar And Lounge...doesn't seem to be opening. It's for sale.

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Permalink Reply by Scratch Egg on March 2, 2010 at 2:58pm

Cmon...share a few.

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Permalink Reply by TC on March 2, 2010 at 3:27pm

Sure its a neighbourhood. It just ain't Leslievile. (Well, maybe between Dundas and Gerrard would be).
Its not about numbers of blocks. Its about the reality of the streetscape - a continous community with unifying characteristics (which ofcourse doesnt mean homogenous.) I feel that holds true in roughly the area I outlined.

Scotch Egg said:

So north of Dundas isn't a neighbourhood? Coxwellville? It's been well accepted that these areas are indeed part of Leslieville. Maps handed out in the area show those boundaries, and by people that live here. Some consider the Port Lands to be inside Leslieville. By your reasoning, why would Leslieville go as far west as Carlaw? Why not just have it around Leslie...but then Leslie goes North past Gerrard. Greenwood is 4 blocks East of Leslie. So 4 blocks West would be...Bertmount. You would have 8 square blocks in that neighbourhood. If that was the case then why name it at all?

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Permalink Reply by Nolin (Admin) on March 2, 2010 at 3:39pm

maybe if I come up with one that doesn't make me groan before I say it out loud
Scotch Egg said:

Cmon...share a few.

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Permalink Reply by Nolin (Admin) on March 2, 2010 at 3:44pm

IMO, one of the primary unifying characteristics of Leslievlle as a community is the degree and pace of gentrification. A year ago, many would have argued that Leslieville was Carlaw to Leslie, and one block north/south of Queen. Even in the 'core strip' of Leslieville, there are still wonderful local merchants operating next to seedy bars and 'chicken restaurants'. So for anyone working on for a pragmatic definition of neighbourhood borders, I think it would be wise to take into account the rate at which segments like Greenwood to Coxwell will gentrify and become part of the eclectic streetscape that defines Leslieville.

Terry Cain said:

Sure its a neighbourhood. It just ain't Leslievile. (Well, maybe between Dundas and Gerrard would be).
Its not about numbers of blocks. Its about the reality of the streetscape - a continous community with unifying characteristics (which ofcourse doesnt mean homogenous.) I feel that holds true in roughly the area I outlined.

Scotch Egg said:
So north of Dundas isn't a neighbourhood? Coxwellville? It's been well accepted that these areas are indeed part of Leslieville. Maps handed out in the area show those boundaries, and by people that live here. Some consider the Port Lands to be inside Leslieville. By your reasoning, why would Leslieville go as far west as Carlaw? Why not just have it around Leslie...but then Leslie goes North past Gerrard. Greenwood is 4 blocks East of Leslie. So 4 blocks West would be...Bertmount. You would have 8 square blocks in that neighbourhood. If that was the case then why name it at all?

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Permalink Reply by Scratch Egg on March 2, 2010 at 3:48pm

How is North of Dundas any different than South? If anything, the recognition is that Queen is hugely deciding.

Terry Cain said:

Sure its a neighbourhood. It just ain't Leslievile. (Well, maybe between Dundas and Gerrard would be).
Its not about numbers of blocks. Its about the reality of the streetscape - a continous community with unifying characteristics (which ofcourse doesnt mean homogenous.) I feel that holds true in roughly the area I outlined.

Scotch Egg said:
So north of Dundas isn't a neighbourhood? Coxwellville? It's been well accepted that these areas are indeed part of Leslieville. Maps handed out in the area show those boundaries, and by people that live here. Some consider the Port Lands to be inside Leslieville. By your reasoning, why would Leslieville go as far west as Carlaw? Why not just have it around Leslie...but then Leslie goes North past Gerrard. Greenwood is 4 blocks East of Leslie. So 4 blocks West would be...Bertmount. You would have 8 square blocks in that neighbourhood. If that was the case then why name it at all?

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Permalink Reply by TC on March 2, 2010 at 4:03pm

Excellent point, my friend!

Nolin said:

IMO, one of the primary unifying characteristics of Leslievlle as a community is the degree and pace of gentrification. A year ago, many would have argued that Leslieville was Carlaw to Leslie, and one block north/south of Queen. Even in the 'core strip' of Leslieville, there are still wonderful local merchants operating next to seedy bars and 'chicken restaurants'. So for anyone working on for a pragmatic definition of neighbourhood borders, I think it would be wise to take into account the rate at which segments like Greenwood to Coxwell will gentrify and become part of the eclectic streetscape that defines Leslieville.

Terry Cain said:
Sure its a neighbourhood. It just ain't Leslievile. (Well, maybe between Dundas and Gerrard would be).
Its not about numbers of blocks. Its about the reality of the streetscape - a continous community with unifying characteristics (which ofcourse doesnt mean homogenous.) I feel that holds true in roughly the area I outlined.

Scotch Egg said:
So north of Dundas isn't a neighbourhood? Coxwellville? It's been well accepted that these areas are indeed part of Leslieville. Maps handed out in the area show those boundaries, and by people that live here. Some consider the Port Lands to be inside Leslieville. By your reasoning, why would Leslieville go as far west as Carlaw? Why not just have it around Leslie...but then Leslie goes North past Gerrard. Greenwood is 4 blocks East of Leslie. So 4 blocks West would be...Bertmount. You would have 8 square blocks in that neighbourhood. If that was the case then why name it at all?

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Permalink Reply by Dee on March 2, 2010 at 4:36pm

A neighbourhood encompasses more than just a block in either direction of what you might call "the strip". We'd have to change the definition of of it every time a new shop opened or closed!

There are many references online, mostly agreeing on Gerrard/train tracks, Coxwell, Lakeshore and the Logan as the boundaries. Like Nolan said, sandwiched between the Beaches and Riverside.

http://www3.thestar.com/static/googlemaps/starmaps.html?xml=090120_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leslieville_map.png

Terry Cain said:

Since when is Coxwell Ave area considered Leslieville? Any opinions out there what the 'borders' of Leslieville are? I vote for Greenwood to the CNR tracks at Degrassi, and Dundas to Lakeshore.