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I wasexcited to see that the corner of Carlaw and Colgate was finally going to be developed.  Now that Ihave seen the building design though, I realize that good design is still a long way from the norm in Toronto.  That is the ugliest new building I have seen.  It looks like a cheap precast concrete or stucco  mini-storage building, which I suppose it is in a way.

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I can't think of a single multi unit building to hit the Leslieville/Riverside market over the past few years that hasn't looked great. Then we get one greedy developer from Vancouver looking to cash in on Toronto's booming condo market and this is the best they can do. They would never get away with a crappy design like this in their home town. They obviously don't care at all about our little nook of hte city. I wonder if the developer has even been to Toronto let alone Leslieville/Riverside.

 

I'm going to see if I can get Christiphor Hume involved. Let's send this developer a clear message, design well or get the hell out of our city.

The meeting notification was primarily via email.  Email Paula Fletcher (councillor_fletcher@toronto.ca) to get on her mailing list.  The posters were only a reminder.

Marla Good said:

Still no flyers in our very nearby home mailboxes, but Paula personally dropped off enough at Morse St. School to go home with every student!

I just emailed Hume with all the details. If we can get him involved all the better. I wonder if we can talk the Pugly Awards site into joining in the action.
Anybody else feel like printing some off and dropping them off this weekend? This is probably the only weekend I'm free all summer so the timing is excellent.

Greg H said:
The meeting notification was primarily via email.  Email Paula Fletcher (councillor_fletcher@toronto.ca) to get on her mailing list.  The posters were only a reminder.

Marla Good said:

Still no flyers in our very nearby home mailboxes, but Paula personally dropped off enough at Morse St. School to go home with every student!

Be aware of the thunderstorms tonight and tomorrow, if you do indeed post anything on posts.
Just out of curiosity, what power does a group of naysayers in the hood have against a developer like this?  Is this the same application as the big box store story?

I don't think residents have any official influence at this point, Scratch. This project was fully permitted years ago, It's my understanding that the only way it could be reopened would be if there were sufficient variations to have the city declare it a new project. Then it would have to be re-permited, which would make subject to the city's new OP and design standards.

 

 

 

 

Scratch Egg said:

Just out of curiosity, what power does a group of naysayers in the hood have against a developer like this?  Is this the same application as the big box store story?
We may not be able to get them to improve their design but we sure as hell can effect how well they sell it.

Cooper said:

I don't think residents have any official influence at this point, Scratch. This project was fully permitted years ago, It's my understanding that the only way it could be reopened would be if there were sufficient variations to have the city declare it a new project. Then it would have to be re-permited, which would make subject to the city's new OP and design standards.

 

 

 

 

Scratch Egg said:

Just out of curiosity, what power does a group of naysayers in the hood have against a developer like this?  Is this the same application as the big box store story?
They seem to be in the lower end.  I'm not sure if they are experienced Toronto developers.  At 200 and change, I'm sure they will move.  I found it funny that they redesigned their Showcase Hut.  It doesn't look half bad.  It's probably rented.
these are priced higher than any development in the east end other than trinity and sync. the problem is not selling the 427 sqft units for $225. the problem they will have is selling the cave-like 3 bedroom unit. selling those and the other larger units are what get projects built. even if the sell out of the small sub $300k units they still wont be able to achieve enough sales to build. this is going to be a long road for them anyone who bought will be waiting a while before they start digging.
Really?  I would think that people set a price and hunt around.  They see "Leslieville" and they run to see it.  Or purchase before they know what 23 square feet looks like.

Investors buy anything that will generate easy rental income but end users buy the larger units so if you have a 3 bedroom unit that offers zero natural light in the principal rooms then the end user won't buy, if you build a terrible looking building then an end user won't buy. At the end of the day the end user gets the development built not the investor that buys the $225K unit.



Scratch Egg said:

Really?  I would think that people set a price and hunt around.  They see "Leslieville" and they run to see it.  Or purchase before they know what 23 square feet looks like.

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